Do you know the difference between patriotism and nationalism?
“Patriotism is proud of a country's virtues and eager to correct its deficiencies; it also acknowledges the legitimate patriotism of other countries, with their own specific virtues. The pride of nationalism, however, trumpets its country's virtues and denies its deficiencies, while it is contemptuous toward the virtues of other countries. It wants to be, and proclaims itself to be, "the greatest," but greatness is not required of a country; only goodness is.” – Sidney J Harris
So which one are you – a nationalist or a patriot?
I think that definition is a little too highfalutin.
Those people who fought during the war of independence were patriots. They were fighting to be in control of their own destiny.
Nationalists have a desire to control others. Nationalism denies liberty.
What ever happened to the patriotism and unity that we felt on 9-11?
Filed in: patriotism
Certainly not a commie like yourself.
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neither
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Don't you think nowadays that when people refer to patriotism, they're thinking of Harris's description of nationalism as the definition?
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Patriot.
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A Patriot! *sm*
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Fishguy why is he a commie? get educated.
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That is the definition of Harris, not everyone would agree with him. I'll take time to look up the definitions tomorrow.
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Patriot
na·tion·al·ism [nash-uh-nl-iz-uhm, nash-nuh-liz-] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.national spirit or aspirations.
2.devotion and loyalty to one's own nation; patriotism.
3.excessive patriotism; chauvinism.
4.the desire for national advancement or independence.
5.the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation, viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations.
6.an idiom or trait peculiar to a nation.
7.a movement, as in the arts, based upon the folk idioms, history, aspirations, etc., of a nation.
[Origin: 1830–40; national + -ism]
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ITS THE WAY HOW WE SPELL IT
HAHA
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Me, as much as possible, a patriot. I think Sidney left something out though. A Patriot will always offer his life in the service of his country, a nationalist will only do so some of the time
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Do you know the difference?? your on hear every night doing alot of Bush Bashing. Now as an American that is your FREE right!! But the flat out Hatred that most have here for Bush is just uncalled for. The 9-11 Conspiracy theories on here just uncalled for.
It's funny a bridge falls in Minnesota and it's Bush's fault, because the state of Minnesota didn't do there jobs correctly, and Bush failed to pull out his engineering degree and inspect that bridge personally. Miners are trapped in Utah because Bush failed to personally inspect the mine. Katrina hit a natural disaster, and it's Bush's fault that he didn't personally fix the Levi's that the Louisiana state Gov, was told to fix in the event of something like this happened. Also it's also Bush's fault that FEMA, who is in-charge of responding to national disaster's dropped the ball because the people hired failed to do there jobs correctly.
If you disagree with the president than that's your right as a American but this flat out pure evil hatred is uncalled for, grow up left wing nuts.
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soldiers point of view
Yes, patriotism is what conservatives have, and nationalism is what liberals accuse us of.
dez604….I agree with you100%.
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Yes.
Though, apparently, my definitions are slightly different than those of the deceased liberal journalist you quote. Perhaps things have changed in the 21 years since his death, or perhaps he was aplying his own shadings of meanings to make his point.
To my mind, he says 'nationalism' when he means 'jingoism' and his definition of patiriotism seems to be leavened with ethical relativism.
By Mr. Harris's definitions, I am neither a patriot nor a nationalist.
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Yes, and you are neither.
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I'm gay
I can't get married to who I love
and I cannot serve in the military, so I cannot be a hero for my country, so in a debate of the likes I don't have a leg to stand on. I don't like bush, and I don't like a lot of the dems, but I tend to choose the better of the evils.
to the soldiers that put in their two cents, I commend you, maybe someday I can obtain that distinction so that I sound more worthy of my opinion, but right now I am not allowed to. so this is your country, not mine, I am just an "other" so don't mind me.
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Being THE DECIDER makes this question rather tricky.
For instance -Dick(Mr. Cheney to the rest of you) -bought me my blond wig after I signed the Iraqi War Bill.
And Alberto (Gonzo to you all) sprung for my implants after I signed the Wiretapping Bill.(they like me looking pretty for them).
So now I'm blond and busty.Or am I -since it's all store bought?And you expect me to be able to figure out patriot or nationalist? Makes my head spin just pondering it….
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patriot. And I have been complaining about this for a very long time. Blind nationalism is the biggest step toward fascism that a country can take.
and just wondering when will commie cease to be a slur. I mean get real I thought daddy reagan beat the commies they are in the distant past. Hell we are best trading partners with alot of commies, China (makes the Ford line of vehicles the nationalist freaks drive thinking its an american virtue), N. Korea, Vietnam get real. Your country loves the commies as much as you do everytime you wave your made in china US flag.
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patriot.
I am very much proud of our freedom and democracy, and would love to see our problems fixed.
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Interesting, but patriotism is love of and devotion to ones country and nationalism is only excessive patriotism. What are you trying to ask? If you are one or the other, you are basically the same. It does not matter what Harris wrote, this remains so, that most legal citizens are legitimate patriots in this country and most politicians violate the trust we have bestowed upon them.
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Patriots are the people who oppose Bush's failed and anti-constitutional policies. Nationalists are the drones that support him.
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Trick question.It's all Clinton's fault.
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I think that definition is a little too highfalutin.
Those people who fought during the war of independence were patriots. They were fighting to be in control of their own destiny.
Nationalists have a desire to control others. Nationalism denies liberty.
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